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...that there are other ways to cheat too.
iMacros is a firefox plugin (there is also a standalone version for other browsers) that allows you to record and make your own actions and play them back. Takes a while to get used to but you can do many things with it.
Also remember there are other scripts that warn you of low health or botchecks. These are also undetectable and do not talk to the syrnia server at all. They just notice things happening in your web broswer and then open an external website to play a sound.
Saturday, 29 October 2011
The script debate
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The debate about if scripts can be detected by players with no knowledge of coding or web servers is always amusing to read. Everyone has an opinion but many of these opinions are uneducated ones as the players simply lack the knowledge on how things work.
So here is a recap:
Web sites (like syrnia) can not detect if someone is running greasemonkey
Greasemonkey developers made it so it would not report any info back to websites about being installed
Depending on what it does and how it does it, a script might be detectable. How it is used is just as important
The original auto-heal script only ate one type of food and some had set it to eat too fast, so a pattern could be seen in the web servers logs. In some cases it was obvious they cheated while in others not so obvious. They still couldn't know for sure so had to get players to admit guilt.
Some players also ran out of food and the script tried to eat the food they no longer had, which would have been noticeable in the logs too. Others forgot to change the food ID when adding/removing foods to a house, which also meant the script tried to eat a food they no longer had.
If the old script was is used correctly, mods/admins still cannot detect it.
Recent players caught were grassed up
Some users of the old script (assuming it was the old script rather than their own, it wasn't the new script) only recently got caught. Why? Because they told others they were using it and this was told to mods. In fact one mod even shopped his own friends for using it. Shame some of the other mods have not done the same.
No one using the new script has been caught
And they won't be. It leaves no patterns like the original script that can be found in the logs. It won't try and eat a food you do not have. If changes get made to syrnia to try and trick the script into doing something it shouldn't do, the script is designed to deactivate and let you know (in this scenario it will usually only need one word changed in the script to get it working again).
The new script has been coded by someone who understands how web browsers interact with web servers and what can be seen in web server logs. So the script has been made from the ground up to be untraceable.
The bottom line is the second generation script is not detectable at all. Even with all the extra features it has too.
For ages I tried to get PvP punished for cheating in the outlands. Instead I was punished as it turns out Syraids good friend Lestro was also cheating with PvP out there and the result was protection for them both from being punished for their actions. Many mod arguments later I gave the mods a choice of stop punishing me or cheats will be released for all. The mods decided that they would prefer to have the cheats released. So when you know people are cheating, remember that this was the mods choice.
The debate about if scripts can be detected by players with no knowledge of coding or web servers is always amusing to read. Everyone has an opinion but many of these opinions are uneducated ones as the players simply lack the knowledge on how things work.
So here is a recap:
Web sites (like syrnia) can not detect if someone is running greasemonkey
Greasemonkey developers made it so it would not report any info back to websites about being installed
Depending on what it does and how it does it, a script might be detectable. How it is used is just as important
The original auto-heal script only ate one type of food and some had set it to eat too fast, so a pattern could be seen in the web servers logs. In some cases it was obvious they cheated while in others not so obvious. They still couldn't know for sure so had to get players to admit guilt.
Some players also ran out of food and the script tried to eat the food they no longer had, which would have been noticeable in the logs too. Others forgot to change the food ID when adding/removing foods to a house, which also meant the script tried to eat a food they no longer had.
If the old script was is used correctly, mods/admins still cannot detect it.
Recent players caught were grassed up
Some users of the old script (assuming it was the old script rather than their own, it wasn't the new script) only recently got caught. Why? Because they told others they were using it and this was told to mods. In fact one mod even shopped his own friends for using it. Shame some of the other mods have not done the same.
No one using the new script has been caught
And they won't be. It leaves no patterns like the original script that can be found in the logs. It won't try and eat a food you do not have. If changes get made to syrnia to try and trick the script into doing something it shouldn't do, the script is designed to deactivate and let you know (in this scenario it will usually only need one word changed in the script to get it working again).
The new script has been coded by someone who understands how web browsers interact with web servers and what can be seen in web server logs. So the script has been made from the ground up to be untraceable.
The bottom line is the second generation script is not detectable at all. Even with all the extra features it has too.
For ages I tried to get PvP punished for cheating in the outlands. Instead I was punished as it turns out Syraids good friend Lestro was also cheating with PvP out there and the result was protection for them both from being punished for their actions. Many mod arguments later I gave the mods a choice of stop punishing me or cheats will be released for all. The mods decided that they would prefer to have the cheats released. So when you know people are cheating, remember that this was the mods choice.
Sunday, 9 October 2011
The games mods play
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We all know how dirty the mods are, and here is another example.
I made a post recently about Mod Sels stealing one million gold worth of items, saying she would pass them on to another player but kept them. Unable to punish me in-game for letting everyone know, instead they have tried to punish someone else, simply because I talk with them in another game.
A couple of points before I post the whisper history the player shared with me:
So as you will see below, Rictor has basically got a member of FoS to leave the clan and tried to keep the reasons quiet by insinuating he would tell others that they did some sort of spying for me (seriously, what would I want to know about FoS?), instead of the real reason that him and Sels are upset that I let everyone know about the stolen items and they are taking it on someone who Sels is also upset with.
[W] 07:27 Rictor[~FoS~]: Don't make this any harder than it has to be, just leave the clan please.
[W] 07:28 Rictor[~FoS~]: I've viewed you as family for a long time, but that only goes so far, that can't stand here. Its time to move on.
[To: rictor] 07:28 Pyriel28[~FoS~]: for old times sake, for you, and the clan, fine i will. just hope though that in atleast a part of you would ask or have a benefit of the doubt
[To: rictor] 07:29 Pyriel28[~FoS~]: that i am what you say i am..
[W] 07:29 Rictor[~FoS~]: I appreciate you accepting it and moving on.
[To: rictor] 07:32 Pyriel28: im not moving on lol im doing it so that everyone will be at peace.. sacrifices must be made. thank you tho for everything
[W] 07:32 Rictor[~FoS~]: Thank you for going peacefully, I don't think greg had it in him to kick you
[W] 07:33 Rictor[~FoS~]: This made it easier on everyone
[W] 07:34 Rictor[~FoS~]: It really is a shame though, I vouched for you to come here, i've known you longer than anyone here
[To: rictor] 07:34 Pyriel28: sorry if you think that i caused any trouble. still going for my point though yet how can i prove myself if im most of the time away.
[W] 07:36 Rictor[~FoS~]: Riz, we both know what you did, lets just let it rest
[To: rictor] 07:38 Pyriel28: doubt you even know what really happened
[W] 07:38 Rictor[~FoS~]: Maybe not, tell me?
[To: rictor] 07:39 Pyriel28: where do you wanna start? you know im an open book and doesnt lie
[W] 07:39 Rictor[~FoS~]: I want to start with you passing clan information to Jop
[To: rictor] 07:41 Pyriel28: i didnt pass any clan info to him. prove to me that i did and i'll gladly accept. it isnt even possible since im mostly on phone if im logged
[To: rictor] 07:41 Pyriel28: in
[W] 07:41 Rictor[~FoS~]: Jop is the one that told me about all this...
[W] 07:42 Rictor[~FoS~]: I don't think he would make up a story just to screw you..
[To: rictor] 07:43 Pyriel28: what if he did? i dunno if he has a grudge on me.
[W] 07:44 Rictor[~FoS~]: We both know he doesn't. He showed me stuff that you gave him from the clan forum.
[W] 07:44 Rictor[~FoS~]: There were msn logs with your msn name
[To: rictor] 07:46 Pyriel28: will it be ok if i ask him as well so that i can hear both sides?
[W] 07:47 Rictor[~FoS~]: there is no two sides hun, you gave out our info. Thats no ok in the clan.
[W] 07:48 Rictor[~FoS~]: There is proof that you did, there can't be proof that you didn't
[To: rictor] 07:50 Pyriel28: true that theres no proof that i didnt except my logs that as you may have noticed been almost always away due to real.
[W] 07:51 Rictor[~FoS~]: Riz, hun, listen, i'm not mad. I understand that you did what was best for your friend, but you have to understand that I can't have that in
[W] 07:51 Rictor[~FoS~]: my clan
[W] 07:53 Rictor[~FoS~]: I'm not going to go and tell everyone what happened, you left peacefully, thats all that matters, what you do now matters not to me.
[To: rictor] 07:55 Pyriel28: this is pointless.. anyway, thanx for the memories and has been nice knowing you..
So much for trying to kick a player on the sly without anyone knowing why Rictor. As Pyriel did nothing you accused her of, she is happy for me to make public these whispers for all to see. It shows how underhanded you can be towards someone who has been your friend since pretty much the start the game. The same reasons how many you started the game with no longer talk to you. Truth hurts...and I always provide the proof.
Rictor, anyone with intelligence will see why you bullied a long time friend out of your clan simply for knowing me, after I posted here about your mod wife who stole all those items.
Now that some people have admitted cheating and are back in the game Rictor, maybe a few of them will open up about you knowing they cheated while being a mod, but just warned them to be careful. While I don't have the MSN logs from when you wrongly warned me, im sure some others will ;)
We all know how dirty the mods are, and here is another example.
I made a post recently about Mod Sels stealing one million gold worth of items, saying she would pass them on to another player but kept them. Unable to punish me in-game for letting everyone know, instead they have tried to punish someone else, simply because I talk with them in another game.
A couple of points before I post the whisper history the player shared with me:
- Mod Rictor is married to Mod Sels in Syrnia.
- I have not spoken to Rictor in almost a year and probably twice in 2 years as he become a twat back then
- Pyriel has not spied for me (Are FoS really that paranoid?)
- Pyriel did tell Sels that she was wrong about a few things and obviously the truth hurts
- I very rarely use msn, as many of my friends know
So as you will see below, Rictor has basically got a member of FoS to leave the clan and tried to keep the reasons quiet by insinuating he would tell others that they did some sort of spying for me (seriously, what would I want to know about FoS?), instead of the real reason that him and Sels are upset that I let everyone know about the stolen items and they are taking it on someone who Sels is also upset with.
[W] 07:27 Rictor[~FoS~]: Don't make this any harder than it has to be, just leave the clan please.
[W] 07:28 Rictor[~FoS~]: I've viewed you as family for a long time, but that only goes so far, that can't stand here. Its time to move on.
[To: rictor] 07:28 Pyriel28[~FoS~]: for old times sake, for you, and the clan, fine i will. just hope though that in atleast a part of you would ask or have a benefit of the doubt
[To: rictor] 07:29 Pyriel28[~FoS~]: that i am what you say i am..
[W] 07:29 Rictor[~FoS~]: I appreciate you accepting it and moving on.
[To: rictor] 07:32 Pyriel28: im not moving on lol im doing it so that everyone will be at peace.. sacrifices must be made. thank you tho for everything
[W] 07:32 Rictor[~FoS~]: Thank you for going peacefully, I don't think greg had it in him to kick you
[W] 07:33 Rictor[~FoS~]: This made it easier on everyone
[W] 07:34 Rictor[~FoS~]: It really is a shame though, I vouched for you to come here, i've known you longer than anyone here
[To: rictor] 07:34 Pyriel28: sorry if you think that i caused any trouble. still going for my point though yet how can i prove myself if im most of the time away.
[W] 07:36 Rictor[~FoS~]: Riz, we both know what you did, lets just let it rest
[To: rictor] 07:38 Pyriel28: doubt you even know what really happened
[W] 07:38 Rictor[~FoS~]: Maybe not, tell me?
[To: rictor] 07:39 Pyriel28: where do you wanna start? you know im an open book and doesnt lie
[W] 07:39 Rictor[~FoS~]: I want to start with you passing clan information to Jop
[To: rictor] 07:41 Pyriel28: i didnt pass any clan info to him. prove to me that i did and i'll gladly accept. it isnt even possible since im mostly on phone if im logged
[To: rictor] 07:41 Pyriel28: in
[W] 07:41 Rictor[~FoS~]: Jop is the one that told me about all this...
[W] 07:42 Rictor[~FoS~]: I don't think he would make up a story just to screw you..
[To: rictor] 07:43 Pyriel28: what if he did? i dunno if he has a grudge on me.
[W] 07:44 Rictor[~FoS~]: We both know he doesn't. He showed me stuff that you gave him from the clan forum.
[W] 07:44 Rictor[~FoS~]: There were msn logs with your msn name
[To: rictor] 07:46 Pyriel28: will it be ok if i ask him as well so that i can hear both sides?
[W] 07:47 Rictor[~FoS~]: there is no two sides hun, you gave out our info. Thats no ok in the clan.
[W] 07:48 Rictor[~FoS~]: There is proof that you did, there can't be proof that you didn't
[To: rictor] 07:50 Pyriel28: true that theres no proof that i didnt except my logs that as you may have noticed been almost always away due to real.
[W] 07:51 Rictor[~FoS~]: Riz, hun, listen, i'm not mad. I understand that you did what was best for your friend, but you have to understand that I can't have that in
[W] 07:51 Rictor[~FoS~]: my clan
[W] 07:53 Rictor[~FoS~]: I'm not going to go and tell everyone what happened, you left peacefully, thats all that matters, what you do now matters not to me.
[To: rictor] 07:55 Pyriel28: this is pointless.. anyway, thanx for the memories and has been nice knowing you..
So much for trying to kick a player on the sly without anyone knowing why Rictor. As Pyriel did nothing you accused her of, she is happy for me to make public these whispers for all to see. It shows how underhanded you can be towards someone who has been your friend since pretty much the start the game. The same reasons how many you started the game with no longer talk to you. Truth hurts...and I always provide the proof.
Rictor, anyone with intelligence will see why you bullied a long time friend out of your clan simply for knowing me, after I posted here about your mod wife who stole all those items.
Now that some people have admitted cheating and are back in the game Rictor, maybe a few of them will open up about you knowing they cheated while being a mod, but just warned them to be careful. While I don't have the MSN logs from when you wrongly warned me, im sure some others will ;)
Tuesday, 4 October 2011
Incompetent Mods
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I hear that the incompetent mods are forcing name changes for some, simply because they do not like them claiming the name was offensive. Had the same problems when I used a Gumby avatar.
So it seems the mods themselves changed this players name to Antichrist when he requested a name change a while back. Then weeks after they changed it, they punished him for his name with a muting, forum ban and jail time. You couldn't make this stuff up.
Syrnia mods are the worst most incompetent mods on the internet. Keep letting them know that :)
Also do not forget that a mod still has 1 million copper worth of items they obtained through fraud. Remember to ask Sels why she kept the items she said she would pass on to another player.
I hear that the incompetent mods are forcing name changes for some, simply because they do not like them claiming the name was offensive. Had the same problems when I used a Gumby avatar.
So it seems the mods themselves changed this players name to Antichrist when he requested a name change a while back. Then weeks after they changed it, they punished him for his name with a muting, forum ban and jail time. You couldn't make this stuff up.
Syrnia mods are the worst most incompetent mods on the internet. Keep letting them know that :)
Also do not forget that a mod still has 1 million copper worth of items they obtained through fraud. Remember to ask Sels why she kept the items she said she would pass on to another player.
Development still in progress
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Just an update to say that changes are being made to the scripts as well as being tested by people. The longer these are tested the better, but we already know they are not detectable and it is worth not rushing to make sure they continue to be undetectable.
As soon as I can give a date or release them, I will.
Just an update to say that changes are being made to the scripts as well as being tested by people. The longer these are tested the better, but we already know they are not detectable and it is worth not rushing to make sure they continue to be undetectable.
As soon as I can give a date or release them, I will.
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