Saturday, 17 October 2009

The latest silencing


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TopicForum -> Feedback -> Reply to M2H's post
CategoryForum
Username/EmailJop.
Last update2009-10-17 17:25
StatusSolved
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2009-10-17 17:25 Senior Moderator
Your punishment was fair and it will remain.



Closing this ticket.
2009-10-17 17:23 Jop
How many times do I have to tell you, I did not discuss punishments in my post!!



That is why I am complaining that the forum ban is wrong, as I discussed NO punishments.




You have assumed from previous correspondance that I would liek to see punishment handed out, but I have said nothign regarding this in the forum posts that resulted in the banning.



This decision needs to be reversed.
2009-10-17 17:20 Senior Moderator
Sorry Jop, your forum ban will not be removed.



M2H gave permission to discuss about the "bug" itself and it is welcome, thus your post on the appropriate thread is still there.




Discussing about punishing players is unacceptable and that is the reason for your warning and ban.
2009-10-17 17:19 Jop
Please deal with this, no rules were broken and permission was granteds to talk about this issue by M2H in his announcement.



Therefore the forum ban is not valid and should be reversed.
2009-10-17 17:18 Senior Moderator
If you have information on how to prove that some players were aware that they were abusing a bug, please send a ticket to the multi/cheat department.



The forum is not the place to discuss this.




Thank you,

Forum department team
2009-10-17 17:09 Jop
M2H said this was ok to discuss.



Therefore my post should not be deleted and I should not be forum banned.
2009-10-17 17:08 Jop
I mentioned nothing about punishments.



I merely pointed out that there would be some evidence to the contrary of what was beleived.
2009-10-17 17:04 Senior Moderator
You insisted on finding evidence to punish those players. This has been discussed for a long time and it's over. You were warned not to continue, unfortunately you decided to go ahead.
2009-10-17 17:02 Jop
I can't read my post now but im sure that I did not discuss punishments. Can you please show me what punishments I discussed?




As for you now mentioning exploits, it seems liek you are making this up as you go along.
2009-10-17 16:58 Senior Moderator
You were discussing punishments/exploits.
2009-10-17 16:54 Jop
There was no discussion about punishments in my post. It simple explained some info that M2H was not aware of.



M2H said it could be discussed, why did you delete my thread?
2009-10-17 16:47 Senior Moderator
Dear Jop,




Please read the announcement. No more discussions about punishments regarding this issue.



Please do not pursue this any longer or you'll be severely punished.



Forum department team




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Wednesday, 7 October 2009

Another thread gone and punishment wrongly handed out

Yup, the mod (or mods) who are actively stalking and punishing players unfairly are at it again.

The cover up continues, the unmasking of their abuses of power continues.

You can see the forum thread which was deleted and 3 day forum ban handed out for here.

Notice it did not break ANY rules.

All it did was answer a question a mod asked in a mod edit on a forum they locked. I guess they didn't like the fact I could answer it.

Monday, 5 October 2009

Mod feedback

This was posted on forums but magicly dissapeared:

Would like to get an opionion on something and maybe at the same time question how well modding is working. The feedback forum I belive is the correct place for this.


Out of the 3 lines below, which one do you see as the worst?

[2]14:00 brogs: I heard Raid was Qwe's father is that true?
(Mod)SYRAID[Pond]: You're an idiot (from me personally obviously not as a mod)
[2] 14:04 Jop[~X~]: pedro has one, im sure one of your friends can lag him out and kill him in the ol's on his return



Brogs was Muted, forum banned and jailed for that exact comment.
Jop (myself), was muted for an hour for my comment above.
Syraid got no punishment, until repeated tickets from multiple players and then he got a warning.

So do you think the punishment fits?

My own opinion is that there is something very wrong here that needs fixing. It seems that mods have just silenced people for their other mod friends.

P.s:. This is a seperate issue than the mods letting their friends get away with cheating in the ol's (that led to me getting a 24 hour jailing). So we should keep on topic :P

Edit: I have since been forum banned for 35 hours and the forum post deleted, along with all the replies which agreed that there is something wrong with the above type of modding.

If you feel that the modding is getting unfair, the best way is for everyone to send M2H a quick email at support@syrnia.com to let him know.

Sunday, 4 October 2009

An admission of bias from mods?

2009-10-04 21:29 Senior Moderator

No one who meets YOUR definition in this department. You may send your request to the other departments directly.

2009-10-04 21:09 Jop

Still awaiting a reply from a mod who understands the situation and cna act on it without bias towards friends...

2009-10-04 16:35 Jop

Pass this on to another mod, this is not staff harrasment.

Corrupt mods

Yeah, the mods are corrupt and don't like players pointing this out. How do they deal with it?

a) Deleting players posts in forum
b) Forum banning players
c) Muting players
d) Jailing players

This does not shut the players up though. Lets start by posting the first of the details:

Syraid who is a senior mod and runs the clan Pond. Today it was mentioned about some multi's in the Pond clan, some recently froze. So they deleted the post and punished Brogs who said it. Since then Brogs has been muted, forum banned and jailed by the mods as punishment. They will find any reason to punish someone they don't like which is obvious from below:

Dear brogs,

You have been muted.
You have been forum banned.
You have been jailed.

A message from a moderator:
You have been punished for harassing a player or players. (Syrnia Rules Act 2009, section 6-1a, b, d).
[2]14:00 brogs: I heard Raid was Qwe's father is that true?

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Hardly a reason for that kind of punishment.

Now Lestro, PvP and Z33OLS (formally Gods_Messenger) were known to be cheating in the outlands recently by dropping many items and causing players to lag so they could kill them. Everyone knows they did it, players, the mods, even my little dog.

They were never punished even though there is a rule that says you may not exploit bugs in the system for advantage. Why? Well it is well known that Syraid and Lestro were very good friends. PvP also used to be a clannie of his. So behind closed doors of clan chats everywhere, everyone is thinking that these players got preferential treatment because of who they know. Or at least one of them. If they punished one they would have to punish them all!

Anyway, many many people created tickets regarding the cheating, yet the mods have stuck to backing up their friends even though they know these players cheated.

My ticket regarding this had a mod who was so stuck up their own arse it is untrue. Told me that if I replied to the ticket again they would call it staff harrasment. After replying explaining that a mod harrased me directly (which is true harrasment, not the mods own definition of it) and yet got no punishment, I was muted, forum banned and jailed too:

Player harrasment without punishment: [W] 13:33 (Mod)SYRAID[Pond]: You're an idiot (from me personally obviously not as a mod)

My punishment:

Dear Jop,

You have been muted.
You have been forum banned.
You have been jailed.

A message from a moderator:
24954 Jop Corrupt mods Corrupt mods 2009-10-04 16:36 Pending moderator reply
24953 Jop Corrupt mods Corrupt mods 2009-10-04 16:36 Pending moderator reply
24544 Jop Player PvP exploiting ingame bug 2009-10-04 16:35 Pending moderator reply

**************

Mods seem to hate it when you point out how bad they actually are, yet instead of fixing the problems, they choose to silence players instead. This player will not be silenced.

Edit: Word has got to me that yet another player has been jailed today, this time for making a complaint against Syraid for harrasing me. The mods are off the rails today! All respect lost!

Monday, 24 August 2009

New island sneak preview


6 New locations.


Wednesday, 6 May 2009

[~SaS~][Zen][Pond][-TL-] PACT - POLICY

Came across a text file while I was cleaning up files and defragging my hard disk, which is the text of the alliance agreement between the above clans.  The date on the text file is well over a year old, so this can obviously be considered 'old' data but figured it would interest some of you ;)

[~SaS~][Zen][Pond][-TL-] PACT - POLICY

By being part of this pact, the involved clans have agreed with the content of this document.
The goal of this pact is to benefit all involved clans, therefore we have set up the following rules that apply to all members of the involved clans.

Outlands

Members of the involved clans will not attack / kill eachother in the Outlands. The is the most important and main idea behind our alliance.
This enables us to control the outlands, and organise mining parties frequently.

* Hitting by accident
Because of the rapid movement in the Outlands, it frequently happens that allied players hit eachother by accident.
We ask everyone to assess those situations and don't take it as an offence if you get hit accidently.
At the same time we ask the Warriors to be careful when hunting, and not to just click whenever someone appears.

* Drops

Notice that this goes only for loot of value, not for a few hundred hp or some armour sets. Those can be kept by whoever picks them up.
Those rules apply when there are PK'ers of our clans active in the Outlands, and no special agreements on drops have been made between them.

The general rule when it comes to killing players in OL is:

The killer gets the loot.
Other players that pick up part of the loot (for whatever reason, e.g. that there are more hostile PK'ers in OL) should return it to the killer.

However, there are a few "exceptions" to this rule.

1. There are 2 (or more) players who all did their fair share of the damage.

For example:

2008-07-04 16:05:34 nooblet(30) did 0 damage to Immortal_pker. Immortal_pker had 20 HP left.
Immortal_pker(25) attacked nooblet, and did 10 damage. nooblet had 0 HP left.

2008-07-04 16:05:34 nooblet(30) did 3 damage to Killruna. Killruna had 31 HP left.
Killruna(43) attacked nooblet, and did 8 damage. nooblet had 10 HP left.

2008-07-04 16:05:34 nooblet(30) did 0 damage to Immortal_pker. Immortal_pker had 20 HP left.
Immortal_pker(25) attacked nooblet, and did 4 damage. nooblet had 18 HP left.

2008-07-04 16:05:34 nooblet(30) did 2 damage to Killruna. Killruna had 34 HP left.
Killruna(43) attacked nooblet, and did 7 damage. nooblet had 22 HP left.

In this case, the loot should be divided equally amongst the involved PK'ers.


2. Kill "stealing".

If one PK'er has been doing most of the damage, and another one comes in and finishes the target off, the loot should be given to one who actually did the work.
This rule applies only if the initial attacker was still chasing the target at the time the other PK'er finished him off.

*NOTE: would any disagreements about drops occur, contact your clanleader and it will be sorted out. Do NOT under any circumstance start flaming via player messages and certainly not in public chat.

Dieing

If a member of of our pact dies (it does not matter how), and a player of the involved clans manages to retrieve the stuff, the player has the obligation to return it to it's respective owner.
To avoid misunderstandings, we strongly recommend that if a situation like this occurs, the involved players contact their clanleader/council and settle it from there.

Thieving
Members of the involved clan will not thieve eachother.
This means that they will not:

A - Thieve shops / shop gold of players from the involved clans.
B - Thieve players from the involved clans.

*Exceptions to rule B
- Thieving guild jobs. The player doing the job should notify the target in time, and return any gold that was stolen in case he or she thieved succesfully.
- The player does not mind being thieved, but this should be self evident.
- Thieving someone to leave Arch cave 3 or 4. Again, any stolen gp should be returned to it's owner.

General 'manners'

To keep this pact alive, we will need cooperation of all members. This won't work if players of this pact are arguing all the time.
Therefore We ask everyone to let personal arguments rest for the benefit of not only your own clan, but for the benefit of all clans.

Alliance channel

IRC channel.
Server: Quakenet
Channel: #ZSPT

Please use this syntax for your nickname: yourname[-TL-]

Our alliance and publicity

We do not want our alliance to be publically known. However, due to mining parties (and maybe other situations) eventually players will notice something.
Therefore we ask you NOT to confirm that our clans have an alliance. Let the other clans figure it out on their own.
Even when other players notice something, don't go into it.


Obviously as myself and others had this very document, no guessing was required.  It makes me wonder the reasons I didn't post this when I first got it!